We are Rebranding!

Hate red. Prefer blue.

Looks like at least their logo is black again:

AngrybeardUK (@AngrybeardUK) Tweeted:
Curve brand refresh – not sure about the new colour scheme. While @imaginecurve is in my personal “Top 3 Money Apps” I can’t help myself seeing this when looking at the new, red logo. #logo #branding #design https://t.co/ymULh80rbl https://twitter.com/AngrybeardUK/status/1186762972007469057?s=17

Personally I wouldn’t entrust my money to someone who claims to be “badass” or “kickass”. It sounds juvenile and irresponsible in the extreme. Not a leading-edge Fintech company, more a Russian scam. Now I’m embarrassed to recommend it to my friends. You don’t have to target the kids: they’ll come to you later in life, when their financial affairs start to become more complex. Don’t alienate the adults (the ones with money). Keep it simple and stylish. Sophisticated is clean design. Less is more. Indeed, that’s the whole philosophy of Curve: make it simple for the user, one card instead of many, more convenience with less fuss.

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Too busy as a message - too many things…stick to the benefits

Put simply - tag lines;

#carryonecard
#rememberonepin
#switchcardafterspending
#allyourspendinginoneapp

a picture of the card and brand and custom message for each one of these;

#carryonecard - “leave that big chunky wallet at home”
#rememberonepin - “I have so many cards and soooo many PINs”
#switchcardafterspending - " I should have expensed that. Wait, I still can."
#allyourspendinginoneapp - “Now I can see everything I am spending”

Sorry @Curve_Marie to bring this up again, but you can’t say someone is spreading false information when they are not! You are correct that this is not a agree to disagree scenario…

Budget would have already been allocated to the in-house marketing team…that I accept, however Curve could have quite easily re-allocated some of that budget (at the cost of the non-essential re-brand and new adverts) to the dev teams in order to complete essential features like 3DS for people to actually use their card. I accept that may not have been a conscious choice to not re-allocate budget, but Curve is implicit by not thinking of/considering this. That is not an opinion or feeling that is a fact of budgeting where funds can be and often are re-allocated based on business/customer needs.

Just to pick up in your reference to team capacity being the restriction…3DS (and other features) have been being worked on for months maybe even years. You have already confirmed the re-brand has been months in the making. There has therefore been ample time to recruit into the dev teams to ensure essential features were released before the re-brand.

Whether Curve not re-allocating budget from one team to another or not hiring more devs sooner was right or not is a matter of opinion. I’ll leave it at that :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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I can agree

You can hire more technical people to get 3DS - google pay - apple pay
But decided to pay the money for rebranding, avertisment

That’s not true?
Advertisement cost money

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Bring all features users ask and you will get advertising (mouth to mouth) for free from your users.

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I’m going to close this thread now as the conversation isn’t constructive, and keeps going back to arguing about points.

Considering some folk are sensitive about their deity, I’m surprised the reference to “time machine” was phrased thus. Without regurgitating the whole branding argument, this feels clumsy.

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While the rebrand was disappointing, the stubborn response to loud and clear user feedback is even more so.

It doesn’t bode well for the future unfortunately if the immediate reaction is to close ranks rather than listen and engage.

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3 posts were split to a new topic: Brand Campaign - Nov 2019

Yes, I don’t think the rebrand using such language or the tube posters will appeal to potential customers in the UK.

In fact, it reminds me of a comment the Curve CEO made before the fundraising - namely that he had learned that some things which work in Israel don’t work in the UK.

And I would say the use of such language is another example of this. I can actually see it working in somewhere like Israel but not here . I can’t speak about other EU countries but from comments here, it sounds as if the UK is not alone in this view.

It would be interesting to know the age demographic and nationalities of the marketing team responsible for this rebranding exercise.

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Is this a tacit admission everyone else was right all along?

Ha, if that’s how it is to be read…

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Check out the latest campaign here: Brand Campaign - Nov 2019

Moving my comment regarding the first batch of rebranding back here:

Thanks for refreshing this thread, by the way, I wanted to weigh in earlier, but it got lost somewhere in here. Anyway, referring to the previous posts:

I’m definitely late to the party here, but here’s my suggestion:

  • Curve Blue → Curve Free, Curve Zero or Curve Start
    Free is pretty straightforward, Zero has that edgy bit Curve is apparently looking into right now, but I think Start is my favorite. It doesn’t seem too obvious and implies it’s the best offering for new users (for growth purposes), but immediately suggests there’s more tiers worth discovering.

  • Curve Black → Curve Premium, Curve Standard(?),
    This one is definitely the hardest to rename, because it’s hard to define what the Black offering actually was/is. It’s not the most high-end plan, neither is it a tier for everyone. In my opinion it has something I call the iPhone XR syndrome. Someone willing to pay that much (10 pounds a month IS a lot) for a financial service is probably also willing to pay for more privileges (aka Metal). No clear winner here, but Premium makes sense (it worked with Revolut). Naming the Black “the Standard tier” would be interesting too, because it would shift the perception of some people to it (everyone wants to have the standard product, after all). By the way, naming a paid tier “standard” is not that uncommon, Twisto did it in Czechia.

  • Curve Metal → Curve Metal, Curve Pro, Curve World
    Will the Curve Metal card remain metal? I hope so, because it definitely should. If that’s the case, you probably shouldn’t rename this tier at all. Everybody in the fintech field knows what a “metal card” is and there’s no need to change that. You could also consider naming it Pro in a very Apple-esque manner. They call everything “Pro” now and people fall for that. Curve World is something I included here, because it would highlight that it’s a Mastercard World Elite card, but even I think it’s not the best idea.

The first ones were too messy, but first and foremost TOO LOUD. I don’t want my financial services to be loud, bold, and edgy, but simple, convenient, and reliable. The second batch of ads is way better, as I mentioned above, because they’re informative.

I’m not sure if I will comment on that one, even though many people discussed that here. It also seems to me that rebranding shouldn’t have been a priority, but it already happened, so I’ll just focus on what we can make out of it.

Oh yes. Curve, you’re not a teenager, you’re a financial institution. One more modern and innovative than others, but still a financial institution. Don’t use these words, please, they’re cringey.

It’s one thing to be fun, other to desperately try to be fun. I’m not the only one to notice that, though, so I’ll leave it at that. I think the Community’s response was clear :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

However, I can see that now Curve again slowly moves towards more conservative messaging, which is a right direction to follow. Keep it up!

+1, it would make discussion more open and constructive

+1 as well, kinda bad timing to introduce the rebrand after the crowdfunding round. I wanted a red card as something extra, but whatever.

+1 again, nothing to add here, that’s what imagine Curve like

Exactly. Curve has a “God Damn Time Machine”. Umm, cool, but maybe tell us what it actually is? Go Back in Time is a great and an unique feature and deserves to be described as such.

To sum it up, I really hope the team understood what could be wrong with the campaign and will move it towards the better. IMO the whole concept is not that bad, but the whole branding still needs some polishing. Can’t wait to see the results!

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Useful insight, @Pawel, and may I say the Magna Carta was shorter than your post :smiley:

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Haha, yeah :grin: sometimes it’s hard for me to be precise, English is not my native language and sometimes I feel like I’m going in circles. Good to know you found my post useful, though, thanks!

Impressive usage, dear chap, and if they feel like circles, then they’re very articulate circles :slightly_smiling_face:

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